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Fate/Feminism 

 
  
  
 Fate/Stay  Night, like other Visual Novels/Anime with Harem aspects, has a male  main character and so the extent to which the story seemingly revolves  around him can be seen as undermining what Feminist potential could come  from having. such a large cast of female characters.
 
 
 However  I think there is a lot of Feminist potential in the Fate/ franchise,  maybe not always intentional from the original creators, but it’s there.
 
 
 
 Spoiler Warning here, since I can’t really talk about any of this without spoiling stuff.
 
 
 
 One  of the reasons I don’t mind the supposed spoilers that come from  watching Fate/Zero first is because I really see no downside to knowing  Sakura and Rin are sisters from the start.  I watched Unlimited Blade  Works not knowing and just wondered why Sakura got so much attention  early on only to be mostly forgotten.  (I also didn’t really know the  whole it’s only one route of the Visual Novel aspect.)
 
 
 I  think it majorly helps to watch Unlimited Blade Works Episode 0 knowing  about Rin and Sakura, because then you fully get that the reason Rin  saved Shirou is for Sakura.  The love one woman has for her sister is  why the male MC is even alive.
 
 
 And  that’s just one of a few reasons that Shirou’s importance to the story  is seemingly only because he happens to have connections to all these  important women.  While in a more typical Fantasy/Harem hybrid it’s more  like the women only matter because the super special Jesus-Kun main  character likes them.  Indeed you’ll notice in Fate/Zero that all four  major Waifus of Fate/Stay Night were part of the Holy Grail War story  well before Shirou was, they are all in the first episode of Fate/Zero  while we don’t meet Shirou till the last one.
 
 
 Outside  of the main four, I find it interesting that the other two female  servants, Rider and Caster, are both women from Greek mythology who have  been the subject of a lot of Feminist criticism.  Their stories are  pretty clearly originally based on Misogynist archetypes, but women have  sought to reclaim them.  A YouTube channel specializing in Nasuverse  Lore videos has done videos on Medusa and Medea.   I feel like Fate’s takes on them definitely draws on the Feminist  analysis of them.  I can’t comment much on Medusa yet having. not gotten  to see a version of Heaven’s Feel.  But Medea in Unlimited Blade Works  is pretty interesting, calling her a Witch seems to be her Berserk  button, and in her flashback episode she laments being again passed  around, vilified and discarded by men.
 
 
 Fate/Prototype  is a short OVA that is based on what the original idea for Fate/Stay  Night was before it evolved (makes me think it’d be cool to see some  Cartoons based on the abandoned versions of Star Wars).  It’s notable  that it had a female lead and a male Saber.  This female lead seems more  like a proto-Rin then a female Shirou.  But it’s definitely interesting  that that is where the idea for Fate/ started.
 
 
 I  have praised Fate/Zero a lot, including calling it the best entry point  into Fate/ for potential new fans.  But my one issue with it is it’s  not as good at it’s handling of female characters.  It’s cast is overall  much more masculine, with Saber herself being the only female Servant  this time.  And worst of all there is a lot of fridging, the worst of it  being how we’re supposed to sympathize with Karia after he strangles  the woman he claims he loves.
 
 
 But  Saber/Artoria is still great, and I love Irisviel.  And I also like  Maya, and I like that Irisviel is okay with Maya and Kiritsugu's  relationship.  And I think you could definitely see a Feminist  commentary in Caster’s obsession with Jeanne d’Arc.
 
 
 The currently airing Fate/Apocrypha is difficult to comment on, I think I’ll understand it better once I can watch it Dubbed.  
 
 
 I  don’t know a lot about Grand Order, I’ll be seeing the OVA when it’s  Dub drops.  What I do want to comment on briefly is that I heard it has Chevalier d’Eon,  and depicts them as Non-Binary.  I would prefer d’Eon be a Trans-Woman  as she was historically, but that is definitely better than what the Le Chevalier d’Eon anime did, pretty much removing the Queerness altogether.

 Other  Nasuverse franchises like Tsukihime, Kara no Kyoukai and Canaan are  also worth discussing.  But that would make this post way too long.
 
 
 So, the Fate/ franchise has it’s issues.  But there is definitely a lot of value in it.
 
 
 
 
요약 해석
 
자기는 그랜드 오더 에 대해서는 잘 모르고 (CM은 좀 봤다고함)
페이트 제로 , 페이트 스테이나이트 , 페이트 아포 , 페이트 프로토타입 , 공의경계 , 월희 원작게임도하고 애니 시청도했다고함
스테이나이트 는 야겜이긴하지만 여성 캐릭터들이 명확한 목표의식도있고 독립적이고
강하고 능동적이게 행동하고 여성에대해서 딱히 야하거나 저질스러운장면이 없어서 좋았고 특히 헤븐즈필루트가 제일 마음에 들었다라고함
스테이나이트에서 에미야 시로만 없고 중심축을(주인공) 세이버 한테 줬다면 완벽한 작품이었을거라 평가함 ㅋㅋ
그리고 제로꼴마초들이 많이 나와서 별로였지만 그 꼴마초들 사이에서 기죽지않고 돌파해나가는 세이버 가 인상적이었더 평가
그리고 아이리와의 동성애 연예도 아주 잘표현했다고 칭찬
아포크리파는 시청중이라 평가보류
그랜드 오더는 잘 모르고 광고만 봤지만 드레옹의 자신감있는 퀴어적 모습이 보기좋았다고 평가
자기는 월희 와 공의경계더 페미니즘 적이라보고 거기에대해서 쓰고싶지만 내용이 길어져서 나중에한번쓰겠다고함
그리고월희 와 공의경계 처럼 페이트 도 더 좋은 페미작품이될 잠재력이 있다고 평가

참고로 월희=공의경계=페이트 는 다 같은 회사 같은 작가한테서 만들어졌다
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